How do you write a hero without turning her into a saint? In the first episode of our special series with the creators and cast of Being Heumann, Dr. Victor Pineda sits down with co-screenwriter Rebekah Taussig, author of Sitting Pretty. She talks about how she came to the project, how she brought Judy Heumann and the 504 Sit-In to life on the page, and why the story is ultimately about “we,” not one hero.

Victor and Rebekah also talk about care and interdependence, the pressure on disabled people to always be pleasant and resilient, motherhood, and what it means to simply be in a world that demands constant doing. Victor shares his own memories of Judy as a mentor and friend.

Spoiler note: this conversation includes some spoilers for Being Heumann.

Being Heumann opens in select theaters November 6 and streams on Apple TV November 13.